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Subject: OK Johnny, PRI is over, so what gives?
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J.P. User is Offline
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12/19/2006 12:14 PM Alert 
It sounds like you made some very good connections at the PRI for ORSCA.
 You held off on giving any details for the 2007 series until after the PRI show.
 So where is the future of ORSCA heading?
 Any rule changes?
 Did you and Kenny Knowlings fix the problem with the two race schedules?
 How about setting our points system up like the ADRL's since you guy's have been talking together lately. It would just be less confusing and it would also make the racer win some races not just qualify well to take the championship.
 
Thanks, I'm sure others have many more questions for you. Give it up Johnny!

"WHAT'S NEXT?"
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12/19/2006 10:51 PM Alert 
TRUE CLASS CHAMPION !!!!!!!!!!!!!

     Can you actually consider a racer that just say was #8 in points and at the final race won it and was declared the class champion. Dont get me wrong here, i really think all of our racers are true champions but that just seems like it slaps the man in the face who raced his/her butts off every race to stay #1.
  
      Thats a very interesting situation and i dont like it but im very neutral and versatile and would probably race regardless how the points championship is structed.

Just my opinion and would really like to here others.
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12/20/2006 12:14 AM Alert 
The points system next year will be a little different Jp.  The rounds in elimination will give 10 points instead of 5 points. If the guy or gal in eighth place wins an orsca championship it will be because he or she earns it in all the rounds of a year of racing and not because he or she was the best on just one given day.  After what i saw and heard this weekend I think ORSCA will model its self after no one but ORSCA. 
Pri was a good deal for ORSCA this past weekend landed some good deals for our racers we are about to sign on the dotted line.  We have a lot of contingencies coming on board this year for registered ORSCA members we  haven't sorted them all out yet.
We hired a couple of brand new staff members for 2007 that will be cracking a mean whip on a few next year.
And yes I did inform the powers of the ADRL in a open meeting that all the things any of us could do to help bring the car count up in our races did not mean a hill of DONKEY SQUAT since we were piled up with races on top of each other.  
ORSCA will continue to do what it has done since the first day of its existence.  Try to bring a great show to the fans and show our racers that we think they are all the greatest thing we have in racing.  None of ORSCA's classes will ever be just another boring slow ass nitrous class as some described them this weekend.
Our champions will be true world champions because they will have earned that right 660 feet at a time in every round of racing they run. ORSCA did offer to compromise on the racing schedule to try and do what was best for our racers as a whole but that is where it laid and nothing more so far.  As of Now we will run our schedule as it sits pay every racer that comes to our show what is coming to them.
We will be announcing some rule changes in some classes some classes will have no rule changes what so ever.  10.5 will have some changes for sure.  Ez street will also have some changes as well as limited street.  5.30 is growing so fast we won't be changing anything in it.  6.0 and 7.0 probably no changes on the cars only changes in the race operations of the classes. We will announce those as soon as we have them all finalized.  ORSCA will not enter into a big rule debate this year we will simply make our rules that we deem best for the racers and  the racing series. We only need to look at where we have come and where we are going and know that we have a good thing.  Every race track in America and including  australia are running orsca style classes we must have done something right.


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12/20/2006 8:42 AM Alert 
Sounds good Johnny!

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J.P. User is Offline
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12/20/2006 4:20 PM Alert 
Johnny, thanks for the fast response. But are there any rule changes for Outlaw 10.5 that will require the car to go to a Chassis shop? If so please let us know ASAP so we can get everything done in time. Thanks.

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12/20/2006 6:00 PM Alert 
I agree with Mike on this one. You should win a championship based on what you have done over the course of a full season. I finished 8th in ORSCA Points this year so that means I would have a shot to run for the championship and I don't feel I deserve that. Don't get me wrong if it happened I would probably agree with it at that point. I also feel that ORSCA should give more round points then they did in 2006. Number 1 qualifier got 10 points and you only receive 5 points per round win. That means that if number 1 qualifier was to loose first round number 8 qualifier would have to advance to the semi's to gain the same points at that race. Maybe leave the qualifying points and double or triple the amount of round points. Just my opinion. Thanks Ken Rainwater

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Carol User is Offline
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12/20/2006 6:39 PM Alert 

Are you adding any classes?


Carol Long
aka "The She Devil
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12/20/2006 6:50 PM Alert 
No Jp we will not be changing anything in outlaw 10.5 that would require a car that was legal today to have to go into a chassis shop to have anything done.  We have the greatest race cars in all of outlaw. I know many are in shops right now but not because of anything we said they had to do.  By the way I would like to talk to you about implementing some of the operations things we have discussed in the past.


AHHH  My lady Carol  We are still searching for the right combination  for another class.  Yes I feel  but Don't know how some other do That  Outlaw automatic Pro mod fits us well.  I will push hard to run that some next year even if we don't find that perfect sponsor to help us run it in some type of class.  Money always defines what we are able to do.  Wish i had more of an answer to that at this point but right at the moment the 6 classes we have in orsca future must be secured and then we can work on some other things.

If your afraid to fly then I guess you never will
Ronnie davis User is Offline
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12/20/2006 7:33 PM Alert 

www.automaticpromods.com  is already in business for you? LOL

I heard today but have not confirm it that ADRL is looking to add automatic pro mods to their races.But i have not heard that from Kenny and have a call into him.
With APMA,Q8Outlaws,East Coast Pro Glide Series,and with the 9 race series for automatic pm held by Kinston Dragway,Coastal Plains Dragway and Northeast Dragway,NHRA,IHRA which many like me run TS in and ADRL,Motor Mile automatic races and Big Dog at Piedmont and at Mooresville and other tracks that have heads up races on their own,When is there time to run all them,NOT many will race every weekend like I do,its very hard to do that.I tried to run APMA with ORSCA last year because I too thought it would be a good fit.BUT ORSCA is a good series and can make it happen "IF" they chose too i'm sure.
Good Luck to all the Series and Racers..RD

 

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12/21/2006 10:15 AM Alert 
Johnny, I have an idea for a class but it's very vauge

Is there anyone out there besides me that has a mostly stock type car but it has ladder bars? In my opinion, ladder bars are the cheapest way to make a car hook. I'd love to have a heads-up class to run in besides index that is fairly low budget that ladder bars are allowed. Currently, there is nothing between an index class and limited  street that I could run in. I don't even know what the class could consist of (ci limit, power adder limit?? tire size limit? I don't know) I've ran 7.0 and index racing just isn't my cup of tea.

I'm just basically thinking out loud here. I have no clue if there'd be much interest for a class like this and I'm sure people will tell me to either index race or step up. 

Any thoughts on this type class?
Billy Mac User is Offline
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12/21/2006 12:45 PM Alert 
How's about....Stock, as produced, bodies...Full Interior..Back halfed with ladder bars....Small Blocks....Single Carbureted only (4150 style with any mods).Any Cam that will fit.....Manual or Automatic trans...28 x 9 slick MAX!!!.....NO Power Adder (?)
t berry User is Offline
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12/21/2006 1:10 PM Alert 
HOW ABOUT LETS PAY A LITTLE MORE FOR THE CLASSES WE GOT BEFORE WE ADD MORE. ALOT OF THINGS NEED TO BE FIXED BEFORE WE ADD ANY CLASSES.

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12/21/2006 2:57 PM Alert 
Yeah What Mr Berry said. working on six classes is about all I can Handle . You guys are welcome to run on out and find us a sponsor for any new class you would like to. 
Find a class that runs for free and you got a deal also.
Hey Billy how about you dig on up the 2007 purse and we will run that class all year for ya

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12/21/2006 3:00 PM Alert 
probally gonna need to cause that damn mustang aint gonna be done this year either. got an idea for a class. .............PUSH IT CLASS...
ORSCA Media User is Offline
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12/21/2006 3:26 PM Alert 
Murphy......LMAO.....
85Iroc User is Offline
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12/21/2006 5:19 PM Alert 
Posted By ORSCA on 12/20/2006 6:50 PM
No Jp we will not be changing anything in outlaw 10.5 that would require a car that was legal today to have to go into a chassis shop to have anything done.  We have the greatest race cars in all of outlaw. I know many are in shops right now but not because of anything we said they had to do.  By the way I would like to talk to you about implementing some of the operations things we have discussed in the past.


AHHH  My lady Carol  We are still searching for the right combination  for another class.  Yes I feel  but Don't know how some other do That  Outlaw automatic Pro mod fits us well.  I will push hard to run that some next year even if we don't find that perfect sponsor to help us run it in some type of class.  Money always defines what we are able to do.  Wish i had more of an answer to that at this point but right at the moment the 6 classes we have in orsca future must be secured and then we can work on some other things.
Why make a post like this and then when someone makes a suggestion for said class, you give a smart  answer??

It was simply a suggestion for a future possible future class. No one said you need to add this or that class right now, just a simple reply to the highlighted statement from your above post.

s10 jim User is Offline
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12/21/2006 10:46 PM Alert 
why can't we all just get along NICELY!!!!!! Johnny i'm building another 6.0 s-10 and if there are going to be any rule changes PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW!!!! Thanks

Speed COST MONEY how fast do you want to go?
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12/22/2006 7:44 AM Alert 
NO RULE CHANGES IN  6.0  will effect the building of your cars. Build them and get ready to race.

As far as new classes we have no plans to add a new class of any type to our points series in 2007.  However that does not mean we will not add certain classes to certain races .  We just will not carry those classes through the year at every race in 2007.  We will be running some classes as test runs to see car counts and how these classes fit into our programs. 

One of these will be Automatic pro mod
one will be a single carb. Nitrous class

one will be a small block only outlaw class

We are even looking into runnig some jet cars as expeditions.

No rules will be changed in all of ORSCA to make any car in any class be required to go into a chassis shop and be cut apart.  I know some of the Chassis shops are not to happy to hear that news.  If you are building an EZ street car thier will be some changes in that class that you will need to be aware of on the intercooler rules and the wing rules. We are working those out right now.  These will be added into the rules pages of the web site right after Jan 1st.

ORSCA  Office and all of its staff will be closing down Today Friday December 22 at 12 noon and will not reopen up for business until Jan. 2nd  2007.

Have a safe and Happy Holiday enjoy the family.
Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you all from all of us here at the  ORSCA

If your afraid to fly then I guess you never will
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12/22/2006 7:49 AM Alert 
85 iroc  I have to give Billy Mac an anser like that we don't want him thinking about another class.  He might cut that car he is working on apart for another class.  He keeps working on that car much longer Like I have mine me and him are going to need a wheel chair class to race in

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12/22/2006 7:55 AM Alert 
Murphy  You better get to work on that car because the big Gangster motor for my car started going together yesterday.

Painted down the side of my car in big letters is
NOVA NUTRILIZER

If your afraid to fly then I guess you never will
85Iroc User is Offline
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12/22/2006 9:04 AM Alert 
Posted By ORSCA on 12/22/2006 7:44 AM
NO RULE CHANGES IN  6.0  will effect the building of your cars. Build them and get ready to race.

As far as new classes we have no plans to add a new class of any type to our points series in 2007.  However that does not mean we will not add certain classes to certain races .  We just will not carry those classes through the year at every race in 2007.  We will be running some classes as test runs to see car counts and how these classes fit into our programs. 

One of these will be Automatic pro mod
one will be a single carb. Nitrous class

one will be a small block only outlaw class

We are even looking into runnig some jet cars as expeditions.

No rules will be changed in all of ORSCA to make any car in any class be required to go into a chassis shop and be cut apart.  I know some of the Chassis shops are not to happy to hear that news.  If you are building an EZ street car thier will be some changes in that class that you will need to be aware of on the intercooler rules and the wing rules. We are working those out right now.  These will be added into the rules pages of the web site right after Jan 1st.

ORSCA  Office and all of its staff will be closing down Today Friday December 22 at 12 noon and will not reopen up for business until Jan. 2nd  2007.

Have a safe and Happy Holiday enjoy the family.
Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you all from all of us here at the  ORSCA

Sounds great. Keep us updated on when/where the "test" classes will be running.

Merry CHRISTmas and happy new year to everyone
Billy Mac User is Offline
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12/25/2006 3:51 PM Alert 
LOL @ Johnny and Murphy........Yoose guys are real funny...

I have no intentions of cutting up my car, Johnny.....(it's already a go-cart with a body hung over it )....

I responded to the guy ahead of me with a possible class....what I posted just "seemed" to be a relatively low cost option to run out the back door in......

Murph....Don't go countin yer peaches b'for they done fuzzed up good.....the horse WILL ride again in 2007....just may be on up in the late spring
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