bulldawg 
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| 07/09/2008 6:53 PM |
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I was wondering when someone would start buybacks in index racing. I always thought it would be GH but I see another track is advertising it.
I wish no ill will towards this track but you can bet every other track and/or promoter will watching to see how successful it will be. If it is
successful, you can also be sure this will become the norm.
So this is an opportunity for you to make your voice heard.
Obviously,with buybacks, you can race for more purse money and get a second chance to race without extra tow.
The disadvantages are impossible to maintain the entire race on a ladder and bye runs can't be eliminated in later rounds. You can end up racing the same guy twice and it takes more rounds to win.
Is this is something you are in favor of, is so,is it something you would be interested in doing in ORSCA ?
This is my personal opinion and inquiry.
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cummings_1974
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| 07/09/2008 7:20 PM |
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at this particular race i will indeed buyback if needed and possibly double enter. |
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Billy Mac
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| 07/09/2008 7:49 PM |
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Just "my" personal opinion....if ya want to have buy backs...go to a bracket race. All buy backs do is put some more money in the tracks pocket and ends up confusing the hell out of the spectators...i.e...."Huh??....That car lost first round...What's he doin back??"
Same thing with paired up "Bye Runs" that are absolutely UN-neccessary....but that's another subject
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Kenny_STP
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| 07/09/2008 8:07 PM |
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| I will not support buybacks or sportsman ladders in index racing. I still have 2 bracket dragsters at the shop just waiting on me to start buying back. It's not fun to loose first round but it's worst to buyback in and loose second round too. I would rather not race the same person twice in one day unless it was a new race. There would be no since in qualifying and I personally feel trying to get on top of the ladder is bragging rights for that day and makes all the hard work worth it even if there's no $$. Just my opinion Kenny. |
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jpaulk
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| 07/09/2008 8:10 PM |
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| Buy Backs in index racing will poison the deal.. It sux from the word go...No brainer.. If you do it you should just bracket race... They used to call me first round. I kept trying and I got better...Thats whats its all about. Ive traveled to Huntsville just be put out 1st rd.. I came back |
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Tim Jones
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| 07/09/2008 8:23 PM |
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| The day everyone has buybacks in the index classes will be the day I buy a bassboat. I bracket raced for years and hated it, buybacks too. |
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ORSCA
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| 07/09/2008 9:31 PM |
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NO ORSCA WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN BUYBACKS IN INDEX RACING.
WE WOULD RATHER JUST HAVE A BRACKET BEFORE THAT HAPPENS
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The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt
the person doing it." |
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Phil Herbox
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| 07/09/2008 9:31 PM |
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As a bracket racer I love them. Won a few races after buying back. For heads up racing HELL NO. What Kenny said about qualifing and bragging is dead on.
Leave it alone
Kenny let me know if you need a driver for the dragster!!!
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1arunem
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| 07/09/2008 9:32 PM |
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Waaaaahhhhhhhhh........... haha... J/K..
If you can beat him once, you should be able to do it twice, or you afraid you got lucky the first time??
Personally I think it would help the guy who made a long haul. It definently helps the amount of purse the track is able to pay.
Honestly, I can see both sides of the issue..
It would certainly screw up a pro ladder..
How's that for flip/flopping?? |
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Jamie@JVracing
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| 07/09/2008 9:51 PM |
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| Don't like buybacks I would rather pay more entry fee and skip the buybacks. The reason that I like Headsup Protree racing is that you have one chance to get everything perfect or you go home. |
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Billy Mac
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| 07/09/2008 10:12 PM |
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Posted By ORSCA on 07/09/2008 9:31 PM
[u][b]NO ORSCA WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN BUYBACKS IN INDEX RACING.
WE WOULD RATHER JUST HAVE A BRACKET BEFORE THAT HAPPENS
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Awww...Come-on, Johnny.....Don't hold back...tell us how you REALLY feel.........LMSAO!!! Well Said, Mr Fenn!!
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ORSCA News
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| 07/09/2008 10:15 PM |
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well judging from the responses to the other thread there is at least a few ORSCA racers interested,,,,,hmmm
I was not advocating or suggesting that ORSCA have buybacks... |
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Billy Mac
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| 07/09/2008 10:26 PM |
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Other Thread??...where??
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kpeztruck
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| 07/09/2008 11:12 PM |
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I do not want buy backs in any index classes. We use to do this at Brainerd years ago, and it only gave you
a chance to have your butt kicked again and be out more money. If you can not make it past first round,
practice some more. Now, with that being said, I have already gone out first round more this year than last.
I guess I need more track time and practice. LOL I would not consider it luck to beat the same guy twice, it
would be luck for them to buy back in then beat the same person that beat them in first round. Thank you
Johnny Fenn for your response on this matter. Wade, you did pose the question" Is this something we would
want in ORSCA?" LOL. Advocating or suggesting, maybe not. Having fun with you Wade. Paul Baxter |
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| 07/09/2008 11:27 PM |
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No Paul my wording was very careful
"Is this is something you are in favor of, is so,is it something you would be interested in doing in ORSCA ?"
I never said I wanted them, I don't but I can no longer afford to race so I was asking for input from you the racers for my own benefit not as an ORSCA employee.
Baileyton is having buybacks in there race advertised here. The first time I can ever remember seeing buybacks advertised for index racers.
MARK MY WORDS IF IT WORKS FOR THIS RACE IT WILL BECOME THE NORM.
Just like bracket buybacks......someone did it first and everyother track saw how successful it was and now 99.9% of bracket races have them. Some have 2 or 3 rounds of buybacks. LOL
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JDE2466
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| 07/09/2008 11:28 PM |
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| I would not want buybacks personally. Why not just add half of the price of buybacks to the entry fee and run for the increased purse that the buyback race has. Since only half of the field can buy back; the money will be the same. I do not think anyone just gets "lucky", and the buybacks will just give another time trail. Without them you have to have your stuff together when you go up fir first round. Buybacks will also eliminate the pro ladder system. I have bracket raced numerous years and know the problems this will create. One of these problems is that you will have poeple hanging towards the back waiting on a so called "duck" to come around so they can try to catch them. I just really believe this will cause more problems that good. Everyone has their own opinion on this topic but I really hope index racing stays true to its core and does not allow buybacks. |
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LeBron_Hill
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| 07/10/2008 6:54 AM |
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I personally feel that the sole purpose of buybacks in index racing is to line the pockets of the track promoters themselves. I do not believe that you will see a rise in the purses paid, even if buybacks are allowed. It is all a big game to me because then you will have to run on a sportsman ladder til you get down to 8 cars but oh, what will happen if there are 9 cars or 10 cars? Then you would have to wait til you get down to 5 cars to start payouts which in turn allows the track to skip out on paying 3 quarter-final payouts. Then you would go down to 3 cars which would also let the track skip out on 1 semi-final payout so no you won't see me supporting any of this. Like Tim said, if buybacks are introduced to heads up racing, then I think its time to buy a boat.
I am not trying to bash the $4,000 race on their buybacks, I am just saying in general. |
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bkracer57
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| 07/10/2008 8:01 AM |
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| Tell me its not true, Buy backs in index racing? This is tha main reason I hate bracket racing. Our local track has buy backs first & second round, Seemed like I was having to run the same guy first, second and third round. BUY BACKS SUCK! Just my opinion. |
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WFORAY
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| 07/10/2008 9:06 AM |
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I vote yes on the buybacks, if I have to chase down every 6.0 car twice to come acroos the scales I'm gonna hit Johnny up for a raise, LOL.
J/K, NNNNOOOOOOO buybacks. |
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Billy Mac
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| 07/10/2008 1:12 PM |
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Don't chase down a soul, Ray....They know they are supposed to weigh after each run...if they fail to do so....disqualify them, PERIOD!!!!!
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