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| I just read on another message board there was a death today at Hub City Dragway in Hattiesburg. One report says it was a red Mustang that ran stock suspension. Has anyone heard anything?
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| 02/19/2007 7:16 PM |
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I talked to chad and he said it was a grudge car went though the gaurdrail and hit score board. It throwed the driver out of the car.
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I just talked to Matt Jones hes there running the Outlaw 10.5 he sent me a couple of pics of the wreckage its pretty hard to tell what kind of car it was all i can tell is it was red
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| 02/19/2007 9:49 PM |
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Scetchy reports are coming in. The persons name reported that died in the crash was scott Williams. He ran Stock suspension in a red mustang. Reports were that he lost control went through the guard rail and hit the H beams sideways on the score boards on the drivers side . Reported he was ejected from the car and hit the beams of the score boards and killed instantly.
We are trying to have some pictures loaded up shortly of the crash.
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| 02/19/2007 10:03 PM |
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here are a few matt sent me from his phone
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| 02/19/2007 10:41 PM |
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Very sad....
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| 02/20/2007 11:23 AM |
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| That's just terrible. Did the car have a roll cage at all? |
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| 02/20/2007 12:39 PM |
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First of all. My hear goes out to the family and friends of Scott. This is terrible.
How serious does ORSCA want to get about safety?? Personally I will be checking into all the tracks we race at and WILL NOT participate at a track with metal railing for barriers. Forget the points...I am making changes to the car and was planning to run for points this year but having 2 young boys and a wife to look after has changed my perspective. If tracks don't think enough of our safety to spend the $$ for concrete barriers I will not support those tracks. If ORSCA as a whole does the same thing we can get the message out!!
I feel after watching my crash with Donnie Key that both of us would have been in the stands if Huntsville had metal rails. Orlando and Bradenton had made the change to concrete. Every track in the country should do the same. |
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After the guy from Canada in his O/L 10.5 car at Orlando and now this! I think Dustin is onto something!
About 6 or 7 years ago we had a guy at our home track, had the guard rail come through the passenger side of the car. He was lucky it was not on the drivers side.
I think Shane and I have to rethink "Like Dustin" on some of the races & tracks we come to now. These classes are getting fast enough that the track that we race at should be mandated to have the Concrete barrier and not the steel ones for the racers sake.
I would hate for my friend thats strapped in this machine to meet the same fate. Nothing is worth that!
We didn't know Scott but we extend or deepest sympathy to his family!
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| 02/20/2007 3:54 PM |
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| I'll second that no concrete no ORSCA should be the policy.Steel gaurdrails are a joke I think the only track on the scedule with steel gaurdrails is albany. They did put portable concrete barriers behind the gaurdrail at the big end after the crash at the jan. 1st race. I really do feel for the Williams family and refuse to put my family in the same situation !!! |
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one more racer gone home to the big race track in sky.i fill sorry for his family its a sad time for all racers because if your a racer your family. look at that oil pan on the motor thats a big nos small block to be in a car with no roll cage.ive drove my self with not even thinking about safety we as racers got to use our heads if u race soon or later its going to happen u going to been a fender or something.if they is anything we can do to help scotts family let us no . quick vandiver 7064732489 |
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| one of this guys friends said over on dragcoverage that this car had a good roll cage but all i see is a roll bar i mean if it threw him out of the car where was the seat belts? i can assure you that alot of folks look at me at these small tracks like i am crazy or a whimp cause i wear a driving suit and take the time to belt up but i am 51 years old and i want to see 52. would rather see 50 again but they tell me that aint possiable. our thoughts and prayers go out to this family. |
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| 02/20/2007 6:30 PM |
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| its a shame i just got a call from someone that was ther and he said the same thing it had a good cage its hard to beleave that it riped the cage and belts out the car and then it threw him out god only nos what was going threw his mind and they say he was a good driver |
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| 02/20/2007 6:58 PM |
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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070220/NEWS01/702200308/1002
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| In all the years I have been going to Drag races and Dirt races I have seen 2 acidents that resulted in a fatality. One guy ended up breaking a trans as he went through the traps and the rear locked up. Even at the speed he was going he didnt tear his car up like that. I have never seen a car tore up as bad. The Lynch family's prayers go out to the family and friends of the fallen racer. |
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Quick.......Some racers at the track said the car had a good mild steel cage in the car. I don't care if it's built like a NASCAR, you hit a H beam with your door at 130 or 140+ with a 3000lb car and it's not going to just bounce off. It ripped the car into 3 pieces and I hear it tore at least one of the belts when the seat came out of the car.
People can say what they want. Maybe he should have lifted, maybe the chassis wasn't 25.2....none of that matters. Your car SHOULD NOT be able to jump over the barriers even if you tried.
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Whis reminds me of the accident that claimed Pro Mod racer Walter Henry back in the late 80's.
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i also will not run at a track with metal guard rails. i have already rolled my car because of metal guard rails. its not fun i was really bless that i did not get hurt. its like a ramp it sends you in the air. my thoughts go out to the family. mikie smith |
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I didn't know Scott but our hearts & prayers go out to his friends & family. I was complaining about the firesuit rules @ ORSCA but after seeing this its hard to complain about any safety rules. We can't over look safety as fast as these cars are going, and the tracks need to be aware of safety also. How many times have we all been to a local track and went through tech inspection by just handing them our tech cards and the cars not even being looked at.
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Posted By nitronova186 on 02/20/2007 9:45 PM
i also will not run at a track with metal guard rails. i have already rolled my car because of metal guard rails. its not fun i was really bless that i did not get hurt. its like a ramp it sends you in the air. my thoughts go out to the family. mikie smith
I agree tracks with metal gaurdrails should be boycotted...Track owners need to make the upgrades for saftey,and its not like tha racer hasent been wacked over the head with SFI updates like mad the last 4-5 years...
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| 02/21/2007 8:06 AM |
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We all here at ORSCA are very saddened by this tragic accident. This one hits very close to home with many of us. For over four years ORSCA feels like we have lead the battle trying to bring up safety in tracks as well as every one of the cars that race with us. I think we just had a pretty long thread about safety just a couple of weeks ago about fire suits.
It's tragic that it takes something like this to open up peoples minds to the fact racing can be a dangerous sport. That danger is sometimes doubled by the fact of not having all the things needed when things go real bad.
Unfortunately this is usually what it takes to open every ones eyes all at the same time. Nascar head and neck restraints, Soft walls at all tracks all these came about after a tragic loss of life in Nascar. It seems this is the way of the sport that has brought fourth changes through the years. ORSCA has tried to be a leading force in bringing up the safety before tragedy happens. We have been real lucky to not have to learn all of this the hard way.
Racers // Car owners please don't be the ones that point a finger to some one else for safety on your car. No one is going to protect you like you should protect yourself. Their is and always has been a reason we require chassis certifications and all the safety items we require. Money is always a issue and that understandable. Ask yourself this question? Is their any amount that would not be spent today on this car above in the pictures if they could go back one week in time and knew this was going to happen.
We do not have all the details as of yet but looking at the pictures above you have to ask yourself was this car built to the standards we all have been trying to achieve in our safety rules. I have had several car builders look at these pictures and we have several other pictures that just simply can't be placed on a message board . Many of those car builders are are asking the same question about the safety needed in this car.
Its easy to now blaim all this on a simple metal guard rail. True safety is never just that simple.
I know of one local track 1/8th mile that has been getting bids on concrete walls. Lowest bid was over 150.000 $$$
We can all say well spend it for our safety but the truth of the matter is some just will not be able to come up with the money to do it anytime real soon. We do sit in a position to see both sides of the spectrum. Just last week we had racers telling us if we made them spend extra money on the safety we felt they all needed they would go race somewhere else. Now less that a week later we are telling tracks that they will spend 150.000 on us or we won't go there.
Safety needs to be in the hands of us all . The tracks need safety tech inspections. You need to abide by those safety inspections. We need to work with these tracks and help them bring up their safety as we work to make ourselves safer.
We need all these race tracks for racing. We don't need to now start losing all our smaller local tracks. Working with them for safety is a far better solution
Our prayers go out to Scott's family and friends. Use this now as our balance we position ourselves on safety. I worked on my car last night and believe me I looked last night how my roll cage was tied in . I looked at how my belts were going to attach. I suggest we all do the same for our own safety.
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| 02/21/2007 8:33 AM |
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| Now you all know that if you boycott the tracks with metal gaurdrails that you wont be racing at very many tracks (mostly national events tracks) and if the tracks are mandated to replace the gaurdrails with concrete ones that about all would have to close. I didn't know Scott and my heart goes out to his friends & family but we all know that the gaurdrail was not at fault. Its job is to keep the cars on the track or at least slow the cars down when leaving the track, metal or concrete, I've seen cars go over concrete rails also. |
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bkracer57 and ORSCA you are all correct. I think everyone who is passionate about drag racing will feel bad for Scott and his family. I know we are a close group were I am from and we hate to see it as well. At our local 1/8th mile track we used rails 2 high up through 2005. Someone in a 4 second car rolled over the rail at the end of the 2005 season. The distance between the track and the rail where several feet. This made the distance from the racing grove to the rail even further. The track owner did look into concrete but the massive expense kept that from happing. To work towards better safety the track owner took down the rails and moved them in up against the racing surface, which is not far from the racing groove. He also added a 3rd rail making the rails that much higher to come over. He also made the 3 rails high all the way down well into the slow down area. People who race at the track every week did most of the labor during the winter break. This at the “Track Safety” level has proved just this year how much safer our track is now. This year our track is going to have safety techs to ensure cars and drivers are at certain safety standards.
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| I knew Scott. He was a great guy with many years left to live. I never saw the guy when he didn't have a smile on his face. The car did have a cage, and he was wearing the same seatbelt harnesses that we all wear. Unfortunately, it would not have mattered if he was in a 25.2 car. The freak thing that occured would have done the same thing to a 25.2 car. If you don't believe me ask Jimmy Blackmon. Jimmy and I are real good friends, and he and I talked about this for awhile Monday. If ANY car would have hit those beams in the exact same manner that Scott did it would have done the same exact thing. It barely put a dent in that thing, yet it absolutely destroyed that car. I've never seen anything like it in my life. The track was taking up money yesterday to give to Scott's family. I'm sure there's a fund that will be setup. Scott had a very young baby, so as fellow racers we need to help Scott's family out. As soon as I find out more information, I will post it up. My deepest condolences and sympathy go out to Scott and his family. |
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| 02/21/2007 10:18 AM |
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Posted By ORSCA on 02/21/2007 8:06 AM
We do not have all the details as of yet but looking at the pictures above you have to ask yourself was this car built to the standards we all have been trying to achieve in our safety rules. I have had several car builders look at these pictures and we have several other pictures that just simply can't be placed on a message board . Many of those car builders are are asking the same question about the safety needed in this car.
That's kinda like looking at the trade centers after they fell to see if they were built strong enough. I would think someone would have had to have seen the car before to form an opinion on the quality of the roll cage. Looking at pictures certainly doesn't give anyone enough info to form a real opinion if the car was safe or not.
The car hit a huge beam of metal. I don't care if the car was built out of I beam's itself, the impact alone would still kill you. What if this was an outlaw car at near 170? No chassis spec in the world would save that drivers life!!! A wall that can stop the car from flying through the air most likely is the only answer. Every track in the country doesn't have to make the upgrade. They should but I understand the cost would put some under. NHRA doesn't run these tracks with metal rails....it's real easy for ORSCA to do the same. If a track has to have ORSCA a time or two a year to survive then it needs concrete walls. I'm not sure how many of our races will be held at tracks without concrete walls but I will find out. I'm thinking it won't be many.
If you think it's safe for O/L 10.5 guys to run a track with metal rails then I'll just have to disagree. I also will not be at that race. From the looks of this post, many racers feel the same. |
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Posted By bkracer57 on 02/21/2007 8:33 AM
Now you all know that if you boycott the tracks with metal gaurdrails that you wont be racing at very many tracks (mostly national events tracks) and if the tracks are mandated to replace the gaurdrails with concrete ones that about all would have to close. I didn't know Scott and my heart goes out to his friends & family but we all know that the gaurdrail was not at fault. Its job is to keep the cars on the track or at least slow the cars down when leaving the track, metal or concrete, I've seen cars go over concrete rails also.
Well said bkracer.
I have seen everything from top fuelers to super gas cars go over concrete walls as well. If that picture is of the beam he hit where did the car go "through" the guard rail?and the guard rail is much to close to the beam to have launched the car into it.
Yes the video of the Orlando crash showed the guardrail buckle and serve as a ramp but that was a case of the ground being very water logged or the post rotted/rusted out. Either way it appears to be a once in a lifetime thing.
Some of you guys seem to think that track operators are made out of money and should continue to spend $$$ without any chance of return.
Here is the truth most accidents, that I have ever seen or heard about that occur at our level of et's and speed is because of driver error. Most of that is because the driver refuses to lift or gets back in it when the car is unsettled or out of the groove. Amazingly alot of those times are during qualifying or time trials. Sometimes it is from excessive finish line braking particularly bracket and index racing.
Maybe the track operators should start a message board blasting certain drivers or cars and not let them run at their track because he/she tends to get squirrely or can't go straight etc.
Maybe they should start charging you for track repairs and clean up or for recharging the fire extinguishers because you refused to lift and save it for another day.
I did not know Scott and I wasn't there,but my heart goes out to his family and friends.
I have read that the car was very well built yet I have also heard through the grapevine from a chassis builder that was there that the car was not well constructed at all.
At some point the drivers, car owners and crew have to take responsibilty for their vehicles and safety as well as the safety of the opponent in the other lane.
Track operators cannot control everything, regardless of their budget or facility.
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Posted By Brian Brown on 02/21/2007 10:14 AM
I knew Scott. He was a great guy with many years left to live. I never saw the guy when he didn't have a smile on his face. The car did have a cage, and he was wearing the same seatbelt harnesses that we all wear. Unfortunately, it would not have mattered if he was in a 25.2 car. The freak thing that occured would have done the same thing to a 25.2 car. If you don't believe me ask Jimmy Blackmon. Jimmy and I are real good friends, and he and I talked about this for awhile Monday. If ANY car would have hit those beams in the exact same manner that Scott did it would have done the same exact thing. It barely put a dent in that thing, yet it absolutely destroyed that car. I've never seen anything like it in my life. The track was taking up money yesterday to give to Scott's family. I'm sure there's a fund that will be setup. Scott had a very young baby, so as fellow racers we need to help Scott's family out. As soon as I find out more information, I will post it up. My deepest condolences and sympathy go out to Scott and his family.
While Scotts wife, Blair, does need support and all the help she can get, fortunately Scott did NOT leave behind a small baby. If anyone is interested in contributing there is a trust fund set up for Scott at Citizens National Bank. Anyone wanting more info is welcome to contact me.
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Posted By kanderson on 02/21/2007 12:16 PM
Posted By Brian Brown on 02/21/2007 10:14 AM
I knew Scott. He was a great guy with many years left to live. I never saw the guy when he didn't have a smile on his face. The car did have a cage, and he was wearing the same seatbelt harnesses that we all wear. Unfortunately, it would not have mattered if he was in a 25.2 car. The freak thing that occured would have done the same thing to a 25.2 car. If you don't believe me ask Jimmy Blackmon. Jimmy and I are real good friends, and he and I talked about this for awhile Monday. If ANY car would have hit those beams in the exact same manner that Scott did it would have done the same exact thing. It barely put a dent in that thing, yet it absolutely destroyed that car. I've never seen anything like it in my life. The track was taking up money yesterday to give to Scott's family. I'm sure there's a fund that will be setup. Scott had a very young baby, so as fellow racers we need to help Scott's family out. As soon as I find out more information, I will post it up. My deepest condolences and sympathy go out to Scott and his family. While Scotts wife, Blair, does need support and all the help she can get, fortunately Scott did NOT leave behind a small baby. If anyone is interested in contributing there is a trust fund set up for Scott at Citizens National Bank. Anyone wanting more info is welcome to contact me. thanks, kim
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We as racers know what safety mandates we have to do in order to race at the times a speeds these cars reach. Look at the SFI specs and most, if not all sanctioning body's require these or you can’t run certain numbers... But is Safety Left just to the Car drivers/owners? We realize that there are certain things that are a "no-brainer" at the track that are for safety but sometimes it looks like the responsibility of safety is left up to the race teams. We as racer know that if something happens the driver or the car will be scrutinized and not the track or the owner because it is our responsibility to keep the car in control at all times. "Ya right" Any one that has seen any type of outlaw racing know every one of these cars are on the ragged edge. That’s what makes the fan come see these cars... But dose that make them unsafe? NO! "Example: 870 ci., 3000 lbs Car, 10.5" tire. Safe or unsafe? I'll tell you! That is safe as long as it goes down the track and makes it back to the pits under power and intact. It is "Screamed" unsafe when something like this happens.. Or the driver is said to be unsafe when this happens. "And guys please don't take that the wrong way!"
I think the question should be asked about, what are tracks mandated "key word is Mandated' to have for safety before they are able to send one single car down the track.??? Is there a certain set of rule and specs for every safety item uses at the strip? We as racers have guide lines but do track owners? These are question that most people do not know but it should be our right to know..
Racers also know that freaky things happen it’s a way of life.
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| A guy who knows Scott has said he walked the track after the accident and it appears the car became airbourne before it contacted the rails judging by the tire tracks and very little damage to the rails. Sounds like one of those freak accidents that happens at times and no wall would have stopped it. |
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Posted By Pit_Crew_011 on 02/21/2007 12:02 PM
Yes the video of the Orlando crash showed the guardrail buckle and serve as a ramp but that was a case of the ground being very water logged or the post rotted/rusted out. Either way it appears to be a once in a lifetime thing.
Actually it happened there before. An alcohol dragster was launched OVER the fence and into a motorhome.
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My condolence to the family and friends of Scott Williams.
I have a question for someone that was there or knows the facts. Were they running the Stock suspension class to the 1/4 mile? The reason I ask is, as I remember the poles that were hit are way down track. |
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| my prayers and thoughts go to scotts family, JP i was not there and do not know it to be a fact but i was told that he was running the stock suspenion class but at the time of this wreck he was grudge racing. like i said i was not there so i can not say this for sure |
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Posted By J.P. on 02/21/2007 7:52 PM
My condolence to the family and friends of Scott Williams.
I have a question for someone that was there or knows the facts. Were they running the Stock suspension class to the 1/4 mile? The reason I ask is, as I remember the poles that were hit are way down track.
The stock suspension class was 1/8 mile. I also hear he was grudge racing when the accident happened, not sure if they were running the 1/4 at the time or not.
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| We were racing 1/8th mile in every class...He was just testing and tuning and was not entered in the race..Was the first pass he ever made in that car...We have Created a fund at Citizens National Bank in H-Burg. |
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| Could someone please post the specifics on the fund set up for the family, ie address and attention to name.. I would like to post the info on myspace and send the alert to everyone I know. The least we can all do is get the word out for some financial support for his family. Our thoughts and prayers go out to this family and all the friends of this racer. |
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Scott Williams was a great friend of mine for many years, on the track and off the track. He was always lending a hand out to anyone that needed help at anytime. He by far was one of the best drivers around the Mississippi racing scene. As quoted by his wife, He loved racing and tried getting out of it many times. But as you all know when its in your blood, its hard to get it out. He past on doing what he loved to do, day end and day out. Things happen for a reason, and the only one that can explain any of this, is the one above looking down. I will miss Scott everyday and racing will never be the same with out him by our sides.
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Citizens National Bank
4599 Hardy Street]
Hattiesburg, Ms 39401
601-264-2528
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kanderson
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| 02/22/2007 3:02 PM |
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You can make a contribution to the fund at any Citizens National Bank. I know of one person that has had trouble finding the account so it is best to tell them Scott Williams Memorial Fund c/o Blair Williams. If anyone cares to wire the money instead of going into a branch I have the wire info, but prefer not to post it for obvious reasons. You may contact me by email at kim.anderson@ergon.com
Thanks to everyone for the kind words you have said about Scott. Everyone should be so lucky as to have a friend like him.. even if for a short time.
God Speed Scott... |
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350guy
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| 02/22/2007 4:58 PM |
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i went to hub yesterday and looked and took pics of the car and looked at everything. i dont know who built the car but what i saw was insted of a 6"x6" plate that welds to the floor, most of them were 3"x3", half of the welds broke, most of the welds had alot of pin holes in them, the tube did rip in some places. looked like the car went airbourne about 5 feet before the rail, that most likey caused the car to go over the rail. my questions are:
1) why are the anchor cables on the scoreboards during a race?
2) why was the pole that he hit not of the breakaway type?
bottom line, if the car was built by tim mccamis, the same thing would of happened. the support cables and the non break away pole were why he lost his life.
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brian97cobra
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| 02/22/2007 5:35 PM |
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| very sad my prayers go out to the family of the driver |
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supersport
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| 02/22/2007 7:21 PM |
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| Guys we need to stop trying to blame someone for this. i mean he could have lifted. the track could have been perfect. the owner of the car could have built a better car. all of this no longer matters cause it was his time to go. when the man up stairs says i want you up here it aint like uncle sam, with indecisions it is gonna happen. if it was his time there was no changing this. the young man is in a better place i hope. i pray that he knew what he needed to get there. with all this said this was an accident and they happen every day. you never know when this could be one of us. and if it is our time nothing is gonna stop that. all the concerte walls and roll cages and experience in the world wont matter. there is some things in life that you are just gonna have to ride out and see where it takes you. once again my prayers are with this family. and i am truly sorry for their loss but he is hopefully in a better place |
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Li'l Rick Pennington
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| 02/22/2007 10:04 PM |
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Was this the car? Found this issue from last year, with coverage from Hub City.
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Index Racing, so easy a "Caveman" can do it |
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chad21877
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| 02/23/2007 1:38 AM |
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| well just let me say im not a racer but a big fan of RACING an a friend of SCOTT (SCOTTY) WILLIAMS i have just got home from his wake an visiting with his family an friends an fellow racers....we all know he loved racing an was good at it...why else would people ask him to drive there car for THEM...should he backed offf the throttle..should there be metel barriers or concrete. Could his car be built better...who knows??? BUT i do know this DALE EARNHARDT SR probably had the best car builders in the racing world an with nascar the best safty they thought at the time ...an he past. HE was doing something he loved an lost his life. TEARS will be flowing an an thoughts will go out to his familey. Will anything change come out of this tragic accident or change the standards of local track..WHO KNOWS?/ BUT the only thing for sure is a great PERSON,HUSBAND,SON,BROTHER,FRIEND,AN RACER HAS LOST HIS LIFE. |
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Fast Lane N20
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| 02/23/2007 10:54 PM |
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Posted By 350guy on 02/22/2007 4:58 PM
i went to hub yesterday and looked and took pics of the car and looked at everything. i dont know who built the car but what i saw was insted of a 6"x6" plate that welds to the floor, most of them were 3"x3", half of the welds broke, most of the welds had alot of pin holes in them, the tube did rip in some places. looked like the car went airbourne about 5 feet before the rail, that most likey caused the car to go over the rail. my questions are:
1) why are the anchor cables on the scoreboards during a race?
2) why was the pole that he hit not of the breakaway type?
bottom line, if the car was built by tim mccamis, the same thing would of happened. the support cables and the non break away pole were why he lost his life.
350guy
Are you sure about that? The first pic above shows what appears to be a 6" X 6" plate still welded to the tubing. |
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RyanSaiki
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| 02/26/2007 6:32 PM |
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http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Miniracer1992/Mustangbefore.jpg
That is a picture of this car before the wreck.
I talked to a friend of this guy and he said the car had a certified cage and that this was the cars first ever 1/4 pass. They ran 1/8 and it went 5.60's. They believe he was doing around 160 at the time he hit the pole |
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Fast Lane N20
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| 02/26/2007 10:16 PM |
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Posted By 350guy on 02/22/2007 4:58 PM
i went to hub yesterday and looked and took pics of the car and looked at everything. i dont know who built the car but what i saw was insted of a 6"x6" plate that welds to the floor, most of them were 3"x3", half of the welds broke, most of the welds had alot of pin holes in them, the tube did rip in some places. looked like the car went airbourne about 5 feet before the rail, that most likey caused the car to go over the rail. my questions are:
1) why are the anchor cables on the scoreboards during a race?
2) why was the pole that he hit not of the breakaway type?
bottom line, if the car was built by tim mccamis, the same thing would of happened. the support cables and the non break away pole were why he lost his life.
350guy
^ I seen these pictures he took and he is correct.
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1320LOU
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| 02/28/2007 5:46 PM |
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| I am somewhat of a local at This Track and its been known for fast street cars ,,though this is a tragic accident I would like to see concret walls ,My heart and prays goes out to Scotts Family and friends,,,,,His car Will be My screen saver to remind me of saftey on my OWN car !!
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P.S. I also don't blame anyone for this accident
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Andy'sToy
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| 03/01/2007 2:55 PM |
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| very very tragic, noone is to blame for this accedent, could have happened to anyone, anywhere, concrete or metal gaurdrails, the way i look at it if its meant to happen then its going to happen. very sad. The Williams family will be in our prayers. |
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Coop
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